day. we'll have the entire forecast in, a few minutes. it is 7:30 on sunday, december 16th. thank you for joining us this morning. i'm anne makovec. >> and i'm phil matier. new details, but still a lot of questions about that mass shooting in connecticut. meanwhile, people are leaving behind candles and toys for the victims. >> that, as a shattered community is trying to deal with the horrific reality. funeral preparations are now under way for the 27 victims, 20 of whom are are children. a memorial service is being held today. >> president obama is flying to newtown for today's memorial service. >> and cbs reporter erica ferrari is in newtown now to bring us the latest. good morning, erica. >> reporter: good morning. police have released the names and ages of the victims, but they haven't given any kind of a motive for what they think might have triggered this attack, this as families prepare to bury the dead. people filed into churches around newtown, connecticut to

pray for victims of friday's shooting, as this community grievous, families in this small town now planning funerals for their children. >> she was the type of person that could just light up the room. she -- >> reporter: robbie parker's daughter, emilie was one of the 20 children killed in friday's shooting. >> she is an incredible person. and i'm so blessed to be her dad. >> reporter: parker and dozens of other parents had their children's bodies returned to them by authorities yesterday. police say they died when 20-year-old adam lanza forced his way into sandy hook elementary friday morning and started firing. president obama will travel to newtown later today to attend a memorial service. he'll also visit with the victims' families, this as investigators try to figure out why they were killed. people who knew lanza describe him as odd and remote. police say he shot and killed his mother nancy lanza at home and then drove to the elementary school he attended as a boy. authorities say the guns he used

belonged to his mother. >> she had a gun collection and she was a real gun enthusiast and she would go target practice shooting with her kids. >> reporter: 26 children and adults were killed during the shooting, including teacher vicki soto. at a vigil for her last night, soto's sister asked everyone to hug the people they love. [ indiscernible ] >> reporter: family members say soto died shielding her students from the gunman. and since he took office, the president has traveled three times to comfort victims after a mass shooting. today's visit will be the fourth. in newtown, connecticut, erica ferrari. back to you. >> erica, i heard they only have one funeral home in town. how are they handling all of these arrangements? >> reporter: exactly, this is a very small town of about 27,000 people. like you said, there's one funeral home in town. but what's happened is funeral homes in other communities within the state and even out of the state have volunteered to

offer resources to help bury the dead. >> erica ferrari, live in newtown, connecticut, thank you. people here in the bay area have been holding candlelight vigils in the wake of the shootings in connecticut. >> at delores park in san francisco, people brought candles and stood even in the rain and they talked about how this country needs to curb gun violence. while there have been many mass shootings, some people hope the latest tragedy will be a tipping point. >> i like to believe that because it's very innocent, very young children that this will really cut through a lot of the mess in dc. i'm a brand-new mom. i have a 7-week-old who i have brought out. and my heart, like every parent across america, is breaking right now. when the president cried, there were parents crying with him. i like to think that this can be a real moment for us. >> the delores park vigil was one of about 16 around the bay area that were suggested by the

liberal organization moveon.org. we have a lot more details on the victims and shooting investigation on our website, cbssf.com. well, meanwhile, it is sunday here and we may have some rain on the horizon this morning. >> saw a little bit yesterday and sounds like we're not going to have a chance to dry out for sometime. >> not much. pretty good weather for the fungus around the bay area. cool weather as well. high-def doppler not picking up anything in terms of showers right now. anything that's falling this morning is very low level, below the radar. and so a few light showers this morning. right now, numbers are mostly in the 40s. we are going to be looking for another shot of rain moving through the bay area, coming in, first in the north bay this evening and spreading over the rest of the bay area tomorrow and monday. so it gets wet. in fact, as we look ahead, it's going to stay wet beginning in the latter half of the upcoming week. we'll draw the exact timing on all of this when we cover weather in a few minutes. >> thank you, brian. gun owners turned in their weapons in exchange for cash in san francisco and oakland this

weekend. the turnout for this gun buyback was unprecedented. people started lining up four hours before it began. the line stretched for blocks in east oakland. everyone was there to exchange their firearms. the deal was you get $200 cash for each working gun you turned in. for a lot of people, connecticut was very much on their minds. >> i think it just puts the whole gun violence in a different perspective. and basically makes everything real. >> getting some guns off the streets, grandkids or kids can't get these guns and kill somebody. >> just as cars were lining up for the buyback, ironically, gunfire hit four people a few blocks away at international and 85th at 7:30 yesterday morning. there was also a long line in san francisco yesterday for a gun buyback. police worked with community groups to get the word out about their program. and so many people responded in san francisco that they ran out of money and had to give people iou's. >> the recent events have really

spurred something that i've been thinking about for a long time. my family's personal history was, destiny was really stolen by guns in their lifetime, my grandfather and my father, my mothers, and i don't want my grandchildren to go through this. this is the easiest statement that i could make, was to turn in these guns. >> at the end of the day, police say they took in 300 guns in oakland and 125 in san francisco. they say there were still people in line when the buybacks ended. they took their names and phone numbers and will contact them. the politics of gun control will be front and center on "face the nation" later this morning, a round table discussion with senators chuck schumer and kay bailey hutchison. plus, the latest on the school shooting in newtown. bob schieffer interviews connecticut governor dan malloy, on "face the nation," coming up at 8:30 on cbs 5. coming up, a bay area woman is helping people with

developmental disabilities get ahead. >> and oakland is about to become the first department in the nation to surrender part of its command to a court-appointed director. >> before the break, we'll give you the names of the 27 women and children who lost their lives in newton, connecticut on friday. ,, ,,,,

mail out early, you are 's experience to cr . welcome back. well, this week's jefferson award winner was inspired by her own aunt's experience to create a better life for people with developmental disabilities. >> and as kate kelly reports, expanding the name of her clients in a stronger community has become her mission. . >> i put things away. i fold. i say hi to customers. and they talk to me and they hug me and see me smile. >> reporter: 39-year-old robin sloan has been working at banana republic in core dough madera for 16 years, thanks to a program called pacific diversified services, or pds. >> our mission is to help people with disabilities become active members of their community

through work and also through community reactions. >> reporter: pds is about getting out and doing everyday activities. >> the reward for me is seeing people improve their quality of life and seeing them enjoy simple pleasures, like getting a paycheck. >> reporter: so an important part of lisa's program is finding part-time work for her clients, like kevin peek who for 16 years has helped bail boxes at woodlands market. and sally harrison, who stocks the shelves. >> i have two jobs i love and i have people that care about me. and i live in my own place now. >> you take them into the real world and put them in a context where they are happy, where they are being included, where they are being treated with dignity and respect, and it's not even the same person. >> reporter: today, pacific diversified services has 27 clients. and for lisa, these aren't short-term relationships. they are relationships that can

last a lifetime. at the pds offices, lisa and her staff of 12 coordinate the weekly logistics of car-pooling clients to various activities six hours a day, five days a week. >> i think they would have fun together. >> reporter: from classes at college of marin to yoga and trips to the mall, being out in the world builds confidence and life skills. just ask robin's mother, patty stolyar, who brought her daughter to lisa's program 15 years ago. >> i've seen her become much, much more independent and herself advocacy skills have been, have grown by leaps and bounds. >> they are in the community because they belong in the community and they deserve to be there. >> reporter: so for her commitment to helping the developmental disabled become active members in their community this, week's jefferson award in the bay area goes to lisa mark girr ral dee. kate kelly, cbs 5. >> and you can get in touch with pds using the link on cbssf.com. click the connect button at the top of the page, then jefferson

awards to find our story on lisa. back to the rain forecast today? >> we're going to start out with mostly cloudy skies. a little bit warmer today than it was yesterday. it's not like you're going to be out in a t-shirt. but not quite as cool as it was yesterday. and we do have another set of showers aiming for the bay area. but that's late today in the north bay, then overspreading the bay area late tonight. high-def doppler is not picking up much right now. we'll be looking at numbers mostly in the 40s. 43 at concord, 48 at oakland. we're all in the 40s right now. as we look at the headlines, first we expect mostly cloudy skies. toward the bay bridge, you can see the sun coming out here and there. rain starts tonight, then looks like a wet monday to start the week. out the door this morning, mostly cloudy with a sprinkle or two. so there's a few light showers

around, but not much. mostly over the coastal range and what's happening is we've got low pressure that is has sunk south out of the gulf of alaska. because of the jet stream, the dividing line between the cold air up in the north and the relatively warm air to the south, we've got nothing to stop that cold air from coming out and the result is it is going to be cold and wet this week. we'll get rain tonight, again, starting in the north bay. pinpoint forecast, we're looking at numbers in the mid-50s today. that's warmer than it was yesterday by about 5 degrees. extended forecast, we'll get wet tonight and on monday. now, we get a break on tuesday and wednesday, but after wednesday, it gets wet and stays wet right into next weekend. so you get a little bit of a break midweek and that's about it. there's weather. let's get the latest with phil and anne. >> thanks, brian. last week, a federal judge approved a plan for a court-appointed director to

oversee the oakland plipped. >> but the new compliance director will have a lot of power, including the ability to remove the chief and the command staff if they get the court approval. one of the civil rights lawyers who worked out this latest deal is jim shannon. he joins us this morning. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> for many people out there, this is a story about a federal quote, unquote, takeover of the oakland police department. but the feds aren't really coming in to take over. the fbi isn't going to be patrolling the streets of oakland. what is this really about? >> what this is really about is that the, if the command staff does not perform and if they do not finally comply with the nsa negotiated settlement agreement, then the compliance director will have the power to remove the command staff and the chief of police. >> and what we're talking about here is police misconduct, allegations of racial profiling, unwarranted stops and searches of people on the streets,

correct? >> well, that's part of it, but there's also setting up a system to identify problem officers, to sort of save them from themselves and the community, and prevent them from causing problems to themselves and each other before they have to be removed. it's actually a number of things, that included. >> and one person, a compliance director realistically can do that? they have so many officers, going in so many different directions. >> i think a compliance director having the power to dismiss the command staff is a tool that we have not had before. and we've been at this for nine years. we've been unsuccessful in getting the opd to comply with the negotiated settlement agreement. this is an agreement that was written almost exclusively by police officers. the current monitor team is all police. they were chosen by the city. so there's no reason that the city can't comply with an

agreement that's been complied with elsewhere in many cities. >> jim, 10 years ago, we had a case called the riders, where a group of cops, four of them were accused of planting evidence and abusing suspects on the street. since then, we've seen a decimation of the oakland police department due to budget cuts. they have gone from a high of 800 police officers to now about 625. we've also seen a steady drop in the number of arrests and stops and such like that. is there a concern that these new controls on stopping people, racial profiling and the added paperwork is going to lead to even less proactive policing? because that's what we're hearing on the streets. >> well, that's up to the command staff to prevent that. that's their job. if they see a lack of proactive police, there are disciplinary tools that they can use. if they don't use them and encourage them, then the command

staff ought to be disciplined themselves. >> the feds have asked the oakland police department to implement a number of reforms over the years. there were a lot of concerns they were moving too slowly. what are some of the key reforms that have not yet happened? >> the stop data racial profiling is one. the fair and just operation of internal affairs is another. the failure to set up an early warning system, which is supported by the union, as well as by us, is a third. but the big problem is the number of lawsuits in oakland. oakland pays out more in police misconduct litigation than san jose and san francisco combined. >> do you find it at all interesting that your cocounsel in this, john burress, is the leading person that sues oakland police department and has actually gotten those millions of dollars out of them? >> well, blaming john for-- >> not blaming, but is it

interesting little twist here? >> it's an interesting twist, but blaming him or me for the number of payouts is like the captain of the titanic blaming the iceberg. if he's not there, then someone else is going to do it. >> okay. well, we'll see where it goes from here. attorney jim shannon, thank you very much. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

wondering if it's time for tougher gun control. but is public i'm sure you've been hearing the debate, the tragedy in newtown has a lot of people wondering if it's time now for tougher gun control. but is public sentiment strong enough to change the law? >> so we sat down with criminal law professor frank zimmer from uc berkeley, who is an expert both on the politics and the policies surrounding gun control. our first question yesterday was quite honestly, we've been here before. we have the president's call for significant change. and we have the politicians coming out to say it's time to do something. but really, is anything going to happen? >> no, it doesn't, and for reasons which are repetitively quite clear. even if the majority of the american public cares deeply about this issue, when a shooting happens, two weeks

later, there is a very interesting and asymmetrical sort of phenomenon of diminishing performance. for the people who are not importantly connected to gun ownership and use, the average citizens, the ones that say something's got to happen, the issue becomes less important. those are the kinds of folks who worry this weekend deeply about mass shootings and who are going to worry about the fiscal cliff next weekend. >> what is it about the gun lobby that has such a hold on the politicians? >> the people who are gun enthusiasts, who see this as a central part of their personal identities are not -- they don't have fair weather priorities. guns, even with high magazine

capacity, even big guns, even semi automatic guns, are not only important to them on saturday, december 15th, they are also important to them on january 15th and february 15th. and the intensity of their commitment and the fact that they stay committed in that way means that there are real penalties for elected officials going against those kinds of preferences, whereas the people on the other side who care about guns, but care about a lot of things other than guns are never going to become the single issue voter who scares the hell out of an elected official. >> makes a very good point, the short attention span of the average citizen. >> and the politicians who take an issue like this and, as he

said, the people that are for gun control, they are also concerned about education, health and a number of other issues. and the politicians doesn't have to worry about delivering necessarily on this issue because if they deliver on the others, they can talk about that during the election. we're going to have more with the professor in the next half hour. >> also talking about parents trying to answer their kids' questions about newtown. we're going to check in with a child psychologist from stanford, coming up. >> and a new debate before the supreme court, the right to bear arms in public. >> and we're hearing more about the extraordinary heroism displayed by teachers at sandy hook elementary. how they helped their students stay calm in the middle of the shooting. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

prepares for funerals for t school shooting victims . today, a community prepares for funerals for school shooting victims in newtown, connecticut. next, the counting of the victims and the heroes who died trying to save lives. >> there's only one way i could make the gun owners happy. >> and more about the debate over gun control laws in the u.s. what poll numbers show about public sentiment after a mass shooting, like the one in newtown. >> high-def doppler showing most of the showers, not all, have dried up this morning. but there is more on the way. we'll have the forecast in a few minutes.

. welcome back to eyewitness news. the time is 7:59. it's december 16th. good morning. i'm phil matier. >> and i'm anne makovec. lot coming up in the next half hour, including a psychologist joining us live in studio. more advice about how to talk to your kids about what happened in this masacre on friday, the importance of being upfront with kids and also protecting their innocence. difficult balance for a lot of parents. >> speaking of balance, also, the entire issue of gun control, the politics of it both in sacramento and in washington, dc. we sit down with a uc professor who is an expert in both gun control laws and police policies. but meanwhile, as the city of newtown, connecticut grievous, the entire country is left searching for answers as to why. >> how the small town is honoring those who risked their lives and remembering those they lost. >> reporter: a quiet new england town is grieving this weekend, as they continue to search for answers. >> i'm also a teacher.

and i can't even imagine going through what she went through. >> reporter: sarah says her friend, victoria soto, a first grade teacher died trying to protect her students. the names and ages of six adults and 20 children, ages six and seven, were released on saturday. one of those children is 6-year-old emilie parker. >> my daughter emilie would be one of the first ones to be standing and giving her love and support to all of those victims. >> reporter: robbie parker described his daughter as bright, creative and loving, also offering advice. >> as we move on from what happened here, what happened to so many people, let it not turn into something that defines us. but something that inspires us to be better, to be more compassionate and more humble people. >> reporter: connecticut governor dan malloy echoed these sentiments.

>> there will be time soon for a discussion of public policy issues surrounding yesterday's events. but what's important right now is love, courage, and compassion. >> reporter: today, president obama will meet with the families who lost loved ones and thank first responders. >> as a nation, we have endured far too many of these tragedies in the last few years. >> that was renee marsh reporting from newtown, connecticut. the town may get more answers today when the medical examiner conducts autopsies on both adam lanza and his mother. here is what we know so far about the shootings in connecticut. the state's governor says the gunman, 20-year-old adam lanza committed suicide as first responders closed in. he says that may indicate that he was stopped short from an even more gruesome masacre. >> we also know that of the 20 children killed, eight were boys and 12 were girls. the youngest was six years old. all six of the adults killed at the school were women, including

the principal. the gunman used a high-powered rifle that was registered to his mother. police say he had shot her earlier friday. now police say she had no connection with the school. there's been a global reaction to the tragedy as well. pope benedict said today he is praying for the families and the victims. and afghan president hamid karzai also expressed condolences. the children who survived the shooting were able to escape unharmed because of some very brave teachers that day. once the shots rang out, the faculty relied on their experience and instincts to keep children safe. kindergarten teacher janet vulmer got her students into the lockdown mode they practiced. >> we got away from the windows, covered the windows, locked the classroom door. the children started to say at one point, i'm scared. i said, well, i think we're going to be okay. i think maybe somebody's up on the roof making noises. and again, trying to divert their attention. >> vicki soto, who also taught

kindergarten gathered her students into a closet and was killed protecting them. the question of whether people have the right to be armed in public is likely to be heading to the supreme court. there have been conflicting rulings in lower federal courts about whether people should be allowed to carry concealed weapons. most have upheld state laws and local gun laws, including restrictions on concealed weapons. judges in illinois recently struck down a statewide ban. so it is a debate that it is continuing on and on. >> and we'll talk more about that coming up in a few minutes here. but if you're stepping out the door, you'll want to bring an umbrella today. we may see more rain in the bay area, after a lot of sprinkles yesterday. brian, what are we expecting? >> starting out with a few sprinkles this morning. otherwise, mostly cloudy. it's late tonight we expect rain to begin spreading into the north bay first, then over the rest of the bay area overnight. we're beginning with readings mostly in the 40s. looking over ocean beach, here in the city and in general, we

expect kind of a cloudy, gray day today. we'll get some peeks of the sun. then late today, rain will spread south. then monday, looks like rainy days and mondays on tap for us tomorrow. we'll have the whole forecast a few minutes from now. >> we won't let them get us down. a suspect has finally been detained after a four-hour police standoff in san francisco's knob hill neighborhood. police responded to the 1400 block of california street around 6:30 last night after reports of a domestic dispute were called in. tactical teams arrived and surrounding units were evacuated when the suspect was thought to possibly have a weapon after nearly four hours, a man surrendered peacefully and no one was injured. in other bay area headlines, the san francisco sheriffs deputy accused of robbing a bank will be back in court tomorrow. police say philip tong robbed the bank of america in the richmond district of san francisco back in november. according to officers, tong handed the teller a note, saying he was armed.

investigators also had video to identify tong, along with fingerprints on the note. and thousands of nurses plan to walk off the job on christmas eve. >> a spokesperson for the california nurses association says they will be going on a one-day strike. nurses at nine bay area hospitals are participating in that strike. union leaders and hospital officials remain at odds with issues like benefits and staffing levels. and on the national front, secretary of state hillary clinton is recovering at her home after hitting her head and suffering a concussion. >> she had canceled an overseas trip last week because she was sick with the stomach virus. the state department says she was dehydrated from that virus and fainted, hitting her head. she is being monitored right now by doctors and is working from home. because of her illness, she will not testify at congressional hearings on thursday about the september 11th attack on the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi, libya. tomorrow, they are making it official. the electoral college meets in every state to cast votes for

president and vice president. they will be following the outcome of the november election when, of course, president obama won 332 votes and mitt romney got 206. well it, is a question every parent is asking this weekend. how do i talk to my child about the school shooting in connecticut? >> and how adults are handling the topic as well. lucille packer from children's hospital joins us when we come back. >> and new call for tougher gun laws after the newtown school shooting. still to come, the politics of gun control. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

game this afternoon at enty-five, and be . and a reminder for you football lovers, cbs 5 will have the raiders-chiefs game this afternoon. it starts at 1:25. and stick around for the fifth quarter, airing right after the game. . and for those attending the game, umbrella weather, rain coat weather, sprinkles on the way according to brian. >> is that right? >> well, maybe a few, a still light showers lingering in the wake of one system. another system comes in late tonight. we get a bit of a break today. umbrella handy, always best to be prepared, don't you agree?

heading to the doppler radar, you can see that most of the showers have dried up this morning. still plenty of clouds around. a little sun peeking through as well. so we get a mix this morning. temperatures uniformly in the 40s, as we look at ocean beach, san francisco, looks pretty nice. for the rest, well, here's the headlines. mostly cloudy, increasing clouds leading to a chance of rain in the north bay, starting late in the day today. probably this evening. then that chance of rain spreads south in the overnight hours and leads to a wet monday for pretty much everybody. looks like monday's wet. 8 to 14-day outlook, you can see the 21st through the 27th is trending wetter for the west coast. and especially centered around san francisco. so keep an eye on that. out the door this morning, a sprinkle or two. mostly cloudy skies, temperatures in the 40s. and as we look at the satellite, cold and wet with low pressure. gulf of alaska, northern california, spreading south and

spread the rain over the bay late tonight into tomorrow. it will remain on the chilly side. not as chilly as dwred. out of the bay area tomorrow, expect a few showers around sfo with a high of 59, winds out of the west, maybe a little delay at the airport tomorrow. be sure to check out. new york looks wet for tomorrow and that's about it. denver and chicago, partly cloudy. for us, we'll be looking at numbers mostly in the 50s. 57 at vallejo. in san francisco, 57 degrees. in the extended forecast, we will get wet on monday. then a break on tuesday and wednesday. by thursday and friday, we get wet and looks like we'll stay wet all the way through the weekend. midweek, a little dry. then beginning on thursday, we turn wet. anne, phil? >> thanks, brian. well, the school masacre in connecticut poses a challenge even for parents who are thousands of miles away. >> here in the bay area, parents tell us they are struggling with what to say to their kids. and it depends a lot on the kids

him ages. one man we spoke with says he's talked to them, gently, but directly. >> we definitely talked about it. i wanted to make sure they felt safe and they understood there is evil in the world, but we do love them and we will try to protect them any way that we can. >> adults say it's easier to talk to teenagers about the tragedy than to younger kids who may not be able to comprehend the magnitude. and then there's the question of we don't really want them to comprehend the magnitude. how do we help kids cope? we turn to a child psychologist. thank you for joining us this morning. >> glad to be here. >> i'm sure you've heard from a lot of parents, concerns about how to address this once kids find out. lot of kids don't even want their kids to find out. >> absolutely. understandably, parents are feeling hesitant to talk about something that's so horrific. dealing with a lot of their own emotions themselves. that desire to step back and to

hide from that is very understandable when it comes from a place of caring and support. but the fact is in this day and age, kids are going hear about this. there's no way we'll be able to protect them from having heard some of this through the media, on television, or through the schools and through other children. and so we have an opportunity to help them understand and to shape those messages that they are getting. so it is important that we're actually talking directly with children about what occurred. >> and what do you say to the parent who is confronted with the child who says, what's going on? and the child is very specific about this, because it can happen here. you can't say you're safe, it's not going to happen here, because i know of a parent whose child turned and said, no, dad, it can happen here. >> and our first impulse is to say this will never happen here and can never happen here. and you're right, we can't say that with certainty. but what we can say with certainty is that your safety is our number one priority.

that your teachers, the principal, mom, dad, your grandparents, every important trusted adult in your life is doing everything that they can to make sure that you're safe. >> but we have a new reality in america. ever since columbine, we have practices in schools, elementary scoots, lockdown drills. it is a fact of life for people, that this is not an abstract. i mean, this is something that is part of the curriculum. what is that going to do to kids? >> this is something that's still an incredibly rare event. and that's important to emphasize. you're right. it's something that happens. but it also happens incredibly infrequently. and with the amount that we're talking about and seeing it on the media, it's easy for children to get confused about the level of risk and about how likely it is that something like this could occur at their school. and it's helpful for children to understand what is in place, to ensure their safety, depending on their age and developmental level. the level of detail that you'll talk to a child is going to depend on their maturity and age

level. and it's helpful to start were where that child is at, so asking them what their concerns are, with a their questions are, what they have heard so far, reassuring them that reactions that they are having, sadness, anger, fear, are normal. >> different kids are going to take this in different ways. >> absolutely. >> what are the things parents should really be watching out for when it comes to their child's reaction? >> i think first and foremost, it's important to remind parents that they are attuned and they know their child well and they need to be listening and available for their children so they can sit down and talk with children about what it is they have heard so far and what they are feeling right now. and to go from there is a starting place. >> i understand that. what -- do you have any advice for parents who are trying to give practical advice to their child, if they are in a mall or something like this and something like this happens, should the parents say run, stay, do whatever? what kind of advice can you give

parents on kids, by the way, this is a part of life, too, and here's some advice? >> so i think it's important that we don't dive directly into saying, if this happens or this happens or this happens, if a child isn't concerned about those things already, that can heighten the level of fear for a child. let's start with what it is they might be afraid of. ask them, what is it that you're scared is going to happen? if they are saying i'm frightened i might be at a mall and there might be a shooting, then talk about what do they do if they are at the mall. you talk to them about parents and trusted adults that are available. you talk to them about how they can reach out to them. so they should know who it is they can go to and how they access them. >> really good insight. doctor, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. well, prevention is on a lot of people's minds this weekend after the newtown school shootings. but will we see any new moves on gun control legislation? more on our one-on-one conversation with a uc berkeley law expert, coming up after this

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. just hours after the deadly school shootings in newtown, connecticut, several people filed online petitions about gun control on the white house website. one called for the obama administration to immediately address the issue of gun control by way of congressional legislation. that one had nearly 50,000 signatures within 12 hours. another called for mental health to be declared a national emergency. academic experts have pointed out that mass shootings in recent years have not led to stricter gun laws. >> in fact, a new pew research poll taken after the shootings in aurora, colorado shogun control laws largely remained the same. 70%similarly, there was no shift in opinion after the shootings

of congresswoman gabby giffords two years ago. so with that in mind, we turn to criminal law professor frank civility imring earlier. senator dianne feinstein is even having trouble getting it on the senate floor. >> i think that's right, but i also think that that is a function of the limited attention span that you are asking me to assume had changed. if there were a lot of people who cared a lot about that, then you wouldn't have the, the one-way street of losing support if you don't oppose gun controls. but not really losing anything if you do oppose them. then it becomes the double-edged sword. >> what is the argument that the

gun advocates are going to be making three months from now when that senator has to make a vote? >> by then, they are the only activists in town. this isn't a situation -- this is a situation where what goes on in the legislature is what sociologists call a status competition. and the real question that the senator is asked is who do you love? gun control advocates or gun owners. and so it's just a question of who has higher status in your political affections. well, once it's asked in that way, then what the political actor says is well, i don't know. where do i stand to gain? and where do i stand to lose? and as soon as it's a status

competition and the gun owners say, and listen, you have to understand that our most important issue is gun ownership. we don't care about the rest of the tea party. we don't care about capital gains tax, we care about guns, and you turn to the gun control advocates and they say, oh, no, we're actually also interested in schools, we're terribly interested in income inquality, and so the senator says, hey, listen, there are a lot of ways i can make those folks happy. there's only one way i can make the gun owners happy. >> and that is, like it or not, often how laws are made in america. they are proposed during the heat of the moment when a lot of attention is on an issue, but actually crafted and voted on months later when the light is off. coming up, we are going to have another look at this morning's top stories. >> and that includes new details on the investigation into the newtown school shootings and

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we have learned so far aboue shooting . welcome back. a summary of what we've learned so far about the shootings in connecticut. the state's governor says the gunman, 20-year-old adam lanza, committed suicide as first responders closed in and that he may have indications that he was stopped short from even more of a gruesome attack. >> and of the 20 children killed, eight were boys, 12 were girls. the youngest was six years old. all six of the adults killed at the school were women, including the principal. the gunman used a high-powered rifle that was registered to his mother. police say he had shot her to death earlier on friday. and now, police say that she actually had no connection to

the school. there has been global reaction to the tragedy. pope benedict said today he is praying for the families of the victims and afghan president hamid karzai also expressed his condolences. many who knew adam lanza are shocked at what he did. >> they say they do not believe -- they do not believe he could have been responsible for such horrific violence. lanza was 20 years old. he appeared to be what people called a quiet boy. he attended newtown high school. police say he had no known criminal record and some of lanza's relatives also say he may have had a form of autism. meanwhile, the gun control debate is back front and center on "face the nation." >> for us, the news continues on our cw network. your hands hold the power when it comes to saving a life. the easier hands-only technique to perform cpr. we'll be talking about that over on channel 44, cable 12, starting in a couple of minutes at 8:30 a.m. meantime, one last look at our weather forecast. >> we're starting out with

mostly cloudy skies, a little sun coming through here and there. but we are expecting things to at least get a chance to drain a little bit today, even as we stay chilly. cold air is over the bay area from the gulf of alaska, so we're going to say chilly all week this week. that also opens the storm door to the bay area, the jet being so far south. as a result, an unsettled week ahead. that low is going to plunge south later today and tonight over the bay area. so after kind of cloudy day, we're going to have temperatures in the mid-50s. warmer today than it was yesterday, but some rain coming into the bay area tonight and then a wet monday ahead tomorrow. >> sound like it's going to be hanging around, too. almost into the new year, this weather. >> it's going to stay wet for a while. >> slow commute. thank you for joining us. "face the nation" is up next on cbs 5. >> and the raiders game is coming up later on cbs 5, if you don't want to brave any sprinkles today. we're jumping over the cw network. meantime, if you're stepping out the door, enjoy your sunday.

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>> schieffer: today on "face the nation," the nightmare of newtown, trying to understand how and why it happened. >> our hearts are broken today. >> schieffer: and so they were. of all the horrible events of recent years, certainly this was the hardest to understand. >> beautiful little kids between the ages and five and 10 years old. old... >> schieffer: an emotional president said the time had finally come to do something. >> we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> schieffer: but what is the